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fingolfin
Member Jun 30th 3:34 PM
I am forced to post what is a tired ass subject due to some clans attempt to do otherwise

1. We WILL Accept a ps retal for a ss. Though it pisses me off to see a 1700 acre retal for a 100 acres grab our guy shouldn't be bottom feeding it is his problem not mine

2. we WILL accept a missile retal but ONLY if the clan obviosly has no one capable of doing the retal with ps or ss. Missiles are a deterent but does not benefit hte allaince donig the retals so should only be a last resort

3. We will ONLY accept retals within 72 hours, any other attempt will be considered a landgrab and we will act occordingly

4. we will accept a policing allaince if we attack someone in war. We shouldn't be grabbign anyone in war so it is our own damn fault.

5. if someone in war instead chooses to do the retals AFTER the war we will acccept that however the 72 hour countdown will begin IMMEDIATELY upon the peace agreement and any attacks by us must be retalled within that 72 hour rule.

6. Anyone wanting to do a retal for something not in the news had damn well better message our country AND it is STRONGLY recommended that you tell a UCN leader so there are NO MISTAKES MADE

7. We allow only 1 attack by a country against our alliance every 24 hours. please respect that.

8. We allow reasonable attacks against us by an allaince. we comprose roughly 2% of the 10k countries that are liable to be attacked. so i see no reason why we cannot be 0-4% of yoru daily attacks. Don't overdo it please :)

9. UCN1 and UCNboot are afforded the status of a singular unit when considering attacks and retals
I think these rules are fair to large allainces and small clans both. We make no attempt to hide behind our tag. We both expect others to abide by these and we ourselves will abide by these. we wish for no wars but will not stand idly by if the retal rules are abused.

Anything is possible to be negotiated due to extenuating circumstances. If you need to work something out you can talk to :

Croaker ICQ # 58563290
Fingolfin #6571095
or your 1st choice
Marty #21308999

If you have issues with any of this we are open for discussion

When wondering if you are being landfarmed by us. please use this formula.

there are approx 7k countires for us to attack above 1 million networth. we make 400 ss or ps a day. so every single country has a 1 in 17.5 chance of being hit by us every day. take the total number of your countries and divide by 17.5 and you will get the best mathematical probability (not taking into account landfat, gdi, or previous attack information) of attacks we would do on you everyday

Thnk you for your time and i hope this clears things up

Fingolfin
UCN PRESIDENT

Antichrist Arcane
Member Jul 1st 4:46 PM
Confirmed!
Marty didn't like the retal system last reset before the wars started so I doubt the wars had a significant impact. I can understand waiting until the end of the reset to make ammends. None the less, looks fair to me :)

Marty
Member Jul 1st 5:10 PM
Actually most of this retal system was in place when I joined only thing that has changed is not baseing it on the news anymore.

Antichrist Arcane
Member Jul 1st 5:14 PM
yeah, I know, bud :)
looks good to me :)

fingolfin
Member Jul 1st 8:27 PM
Oh we still base retals on the news we just ask our members to actively report it and if they don't we go asking them about it :)

klofton
Member Jul 2nd 1:21 AM
ttt like a fox

Marty
Member Jul 2nd 7:15 AM
Well this is true but we don't use the news as the only bases for retals now. -)

HeaVy MeTaL
New Member Jul 2nd 10:17 AM
missile = war

Marty
Member Jul 2nd 10:19 AM
Long time no see Heavy

LuCkY mE
New Member Jul 2nd 10:32 AM
basicily...it's a good plan except for missiles as retals and the rule no.7....=)

taywq
Member 0th 12:00 AM
I take back what startiger said... he must have gotten himself drunk a little

UCN and Elites are NAPed.

:)

Aplomado BU
Member 0th 12:00 AM
Wow, Finny is being fair! :-) The rules seem OK, and I especially respect the missile for retals rule. Glad you understand that.

"Simma down nah!'

Marty
Member Jul 2nd 3:38 PM
ttt

WookieP
Member Jul 2nd 5:48 PM
lol, I don't believe that was fin talking, it sounded WAY too reasonable....

Marty
Member Jul 2nd 10:50 PM
ttt

Ska69
Member Jul 3rd 12:09 AM
WookieP, you should have talked to him before you and the rest of G12 attacked us :) He is a reasonable person.

Boomer
Member Jul 3rd 12:47 AM
UCN has a reasonable retal policy!!! (Armageddon starts next week, please get in line. . . 8Ş)

This looks great, as long as you 7%ish don't do more than your share of hits on any one alliance in a 24 hour period, just as you ask us to do, I will call it entirely reasonable.

We ask that all retals go with messages anyway, and we recommend that the news go with it if possible, so that is cool with me! 8)

fingolfin
Member Jul 3rd 12:59 AM
You can take it to the bank that i will never speak with this wookiep MORON. anyone that claims leadership of a multi clan that suicides on us because they feel that 4 landgrabs against them all reset is wrong is not work my time and effort

I of course had to address him here for dramatic effect to blunt his quest for legitimacy by talking bad about my alliance and my person as if he had a freakin clue about us.

Back to the tetal policy discussion, I am glad that people at least here notice that UCN is not the evil empire that we are so often portrayed to be by those that have personal emnity against me for my blunt, outspoken characteristics.

Marty
Member Jul 3rd 1:24 AM
BTW Fin it was only 3 attacks all reset on them till they hit us -)
HEHE now we have another little multi clan doing the same thing. Oh well such is life.

Servant
Member Jul 3rd 1:32 AM
yawn,

man first day online the whole reset...and i see this

some things dont change
hehe

THAnks!

Servant

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fingolfin Member	Jun 30th 3:34 PM I am forced to post what is a tired ass subject due to some clans attempt to do otherwise 1. We WILL Accept a ps retal for a ss. Though it pisses me off to see a 1700 acre retal for a 100 acres grab our guy shouldn't be bottom feeding it is his problem not mine 2. we WILL accept a missile retal but ONLY if the clan obviosly has no one capable of doing the retal with ps or ss. Missiles are a deterent but does not benefit hte allaince donig the retals so should only be a last resort 3. We will ONLY accept retals within 72 hours, any other attempt will be considered a landgrab and we will act occordingly 4. we will accept a policing allaince if we attack someone in war. We shouldn't be grabbign anyone in war so it is our own damn fault. 5. if someone in war instead chooses to do the retals AFTER the war we will acccept that however the 72 hour countdown will begin IMMEDIATELY upon the peace agreement and any attacks by us must be retalled within that 72 hour rule. 6. Anyone wanting to do a retal for something not in the news had damn well better message our country AND it is STRONGLY recommended that you tell a UCN leader so there are NO MISTAKES MADE 7. We allow only 1 attack by a country against our alliance every 24 hours. please respect that. 8. We allow reasonable attacks against us by an allaince. we comprose roughly 2% of the 10k countries that are liable to be attacked. so i see no reason why we cannot be 0-4% of yoru daily attacks. Don't overdo it please :) 9. UCN1 and UCNboot are afforded the status of a singular unit when considering attacks and retals I think these rules are fair to large allainces and small clans both. We make no attempt to hide behind our tag. We both expect others to abide by these and we ourselves will abide by these. we wish for no wars but will not stand idly by if the retal rules are abused. Anything is possible to be negotiated due to extenuating circumstances. If you need to work something out you can talk to : Croaker ICQ # 58563290 Fingolfin #6571095 or your 1st choice Marty #21308999 If you have issues with any of this we are open for discussion When wondering if you are being landfarmed by us. please use this formula. there are approx 7k countires for us to attack above 1 million networth. we make 400 ss or ps a day. so every single country has a 1 in 17.5 chance of being hit by us every day. take the total number of your countries and divide by 17.5 and you will get the best mathematical probability (not taking into account landfat, gdi, or previous attack information) of attacks we would do on you everyday Thnk you for your time and i hope this clears things up Fingolfin UCN PRESIDENT
Antichrist Arcane Member	Jul 1st 4:46 PM Confirmed! Marty didn't like the retal system last reset before the wars started so I doubt the wars had a significant impact. I can understand waiting until the end of the reset to make ammends. None the less, looks fair to me :)
Marty Member	Jul 1st 5:10 PM Actually most of this retal system was in place when I joined only thing that has changed is not baseing it on the news anymore.
Antichrist Arcane Member	Jul 1st 5:14 PM yeah, I know, bud :) looks good to me :)
fingolfin Member	Jul 1st 8:27 PM Oh we still base retals on the news we just ask our members to actively report it and if they don't we go asking them about it :)
klofton Member	Jul 2nd 1:21 AM ttt like a fox
Marty Member	Jul 2nd 7:15 AM Well this is true but we don't use the news as the only bases for retals now. -)
HeaVy MeTaL New Member	Jul 2nd 10:17 AM missile = war
Marty Member	Jul 2nd 10:19 AM Long time no see Heavy
LuCkY mE New Member	Jul 2nd 10:32 AM basicily...it's a good plan except for missiles as retals and the rule no.7....=)
taywq Member	0th 12:00 AM I take back what startiger said... he must have gotten himself drunk a little UCN and Elites are NAPed. :)
Aplomado BU Member	0th 12:00 AM Wow, Finny is being fair! :-) The rules seem OK, and I especially respect the missile for retals rule. Glad you understand that. "Simma down nah!'
Marty Member	Jul 2nd 3:38 PM ttt
WookieP Member	Jul 2nd 5:48 PM lol, I don't believe that was fin talking, it sounded WAY too reasonable....
Marty Member	Jul 2nd 10:50 PM ttt
Ska69 Member	Jul 3rd 12:09 AM WookieP, you should have talked to him before you and the rest of G12 attacked us :) He is a reasonable person.
Boomer Member	Jul 3rd 12:47 AM UCN has a reasonable retal policy!!! (Armageddon starts next week, please get in line. . . 8Ş) This looks great, as long as you 7%ish don't do more than your share of hits on any one alliance in a 24 hour period, just as you ask us to do, I will call it entirely reasonable. We ask that all retals go with messages anyway, and we recommend that the news go with it if possible, so that is cool with me! 8)
fingolfin Member	Jul 3rd 12:59 AM You can take it to the bank that i will never speak with this wookiep MORON. anyone that claims leadership of a multi clan that suicides on us because they feel that 4 landgrabs against them all reset is wrong is not work my time and effort I of course had to address him here for dramatic effect to blunt his quest for legitimacy by talking bad about my alliance and my person as if he had a freakin clue about us. Back to the tetal policy discussion, I am glad that people at least here notice that UCN is not the evil empire that we are so often portrayed to be by those that have personal emnity against me for my blunt, outspoken characteristics.
Marty Member	Jul 3rd 1:24 AM BTW Fin it was only 3 attacks all reset on them till they hit us -) HEHE now we have another little multi clan doing the same thing. Oh well such is life.
Servant Member	Jul 3rd 1:32 AM yawn, man first day online the whole reset...and i see this some things dont change hehe THAnks! Servant